Overcoming Comparison, Identity in Christ, and Confidence with Nicole Renard [Podcast Transcript]

Title: Overcoming Comparison, Identity in Christ, and Confidence with Nicole Renard (Nicole the Nomad): From Pageants and Next Level Chef to Motherhood [Podcast Transcript]

Podcast Date: December 9, 2025

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Description

On this episode of Compared to Who?, Heather Creekmore sits down for a candid conversation with Nicole Warren Renard, also known as Nicole the Nomad. Nicole’s journey has taken her through pageants, the Miss America stage, social media influence, and even to competing on Next Level Chef with Gordon Ramsay. But beneath the highlight reel, Nicole opens up about the ever-present challenge of comparison—whether it's sizing herself up against others, herself from different seasons of life, or the high-pressure environments of televised competitions and motherhood.

What’s Inside:

• Facing Comparison in High-Pressure Environments: Nicole reflects on feeling like the "least experienced, least qualified" contestant on Next Level Chef, and how self-doubt and comparison can trip us up—even in the most exciting opportunities.

• Identity and Confidence: Discover how grounding her worth in Christ empowered Nicole to compete in both pageants and cooking shows without letting failure or criticism define her.

• Comparison in Motherhood: Nicole shares honestly about the struggles of comparing herself to other moms on social media, and even to her pre-mom self. She offers practical ways to keep your heart and mind anchored in truth during big life transitions.

• Practical Tips for Freedom from Comparison:

  • Breath prayers and staying in constant conversation with God

  • Practicing gratitude to shift focus away from “not enough”

  • Setting healthy boundaries with social media

  • Keeping an eternal perspective during mundane or behind-the-scenes seasons

• Life Skills and Pageant Myths: Nicole debunks stereotypes about the pageant world, explains how it developed her confidence and skills, and how she focused on the positive outcomes rather than just winning.

• Holistic Health & Rhythms: Nicole shares the value of consistency and structure in daily routines for mind, body, and soul health.

• Faith in the Everyday: Learn how Nicole incorporates prayer and scripture into her daily life, even as a busy new mom, modeling an abiding relationship with God for her daughter.

Favorite Quotes:

• “At the end of the day, if all of that was stripped away, nothing I do or don't do changes the fact that I'm a human created with purpose and that I have value that is given to me through Christ.”

• “I'm quick to give up on myself and say, well, I don’t know what else it could be… And I compare myself to that.”

We Talk About:

• The mental game of competition and why comparison can knock out even the most talented contestants

• How gratitude can’t coexist with complaining, and practical ways to cultivate a grateful heart

• Why embracing every season—including the “unseen” work of motherhood—is building an eternal legacy

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Connect:
Find Nicole on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and more as Nicole the Nomad. Get recipes, travel guides, and more at Nicole the Nomad’s website.

Next Steps:

• Sign up for Compared to Who?'s 40 Day Journey or grab the 40 Day Body Image Workbook on Amazon.

• Leave a 5-star review and share this episode if it encouraged you!

Remember:
You can stop comparing—and start living!

Transcript

Disclaimer: This transcript is AI-generated and has not been edited for accuracy or clarity.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:01]:
Nicole Renard, welcome to the Compare to you podcast.

Nicole Renard [00:00:05]:
Hello. Thank you for having me.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:07]:
Well, it's so fun to be with you. I mean, our partners that we share set us up. But when I read your bio, I got super excited for a number of reasons.

Nicole Renard [00:00:17]:
Yes. This is so fun.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:19]:
Reason one. So you and I have something in common. I was also on a cooking show, although mine was not.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:27]:
Shall we say, maybe as prestigious as the one you were on. Because I was on. Nailed it.

Nicole Renard [00:00:33]:
But, yeah, that's awesome. But you were on Pinterest, right?

Heather Creekmore [00:00:38]:
Right. Where, like, it was. We were set up to fail. My cake was so bad, Nicole, that they were. They filmed our episode as episode three of the first season, and they moved the show up to episode one because my cake was so epically awful that actually, if you get an error message on Netflix, it used to be that you like my cake with the 404 error message. So, anyway, that's my claim. But you were on Next Level Chef.

Nicole Renard [00:01:07]:
Yes.

Heather Creekmore [00:01:08]:
And I have to confess, like, I'm a huge Gordon Ramsay fan.

Nicole Renard [00:01:11]:
Oh, who is he? I feel like everybody loves Gordon Ramsay.

Heather Creekmore [00:01:15]:
How was that?

Nicole Renard [00:01:17]:
It was life changing, truly. I mean, I feel like I could write a book and maybe I will one day about my experience, but it was one of the coolest things I've ever done. It also was the hardest, probably most stressful thing I've ever done. I don't think I've ever been so scared in my whole life because. And I don't even know if a lot of people know this, but I bet if you follow me, you do that. I just. I felt like I shouldn't have been there. I was the least experienced, least qualified person to be on that show.

Nicole Renard [00:01:41]:
I'm not a formally trained chef by any means, and I had just started my culinary journey, so when I got the call that I was on the show, I was convinced they had made a mistake. I was like, you've got the wrong girl. And I was so scared. But I'm so glad I said yes. I'm so glad I had the experience because I learned so much through that journey.

Heather Creekmore [00:01:59]:
Well, Nicole, can we go there? Because what I wanted to talk about today was comparison. And it kind of sounds like what you're saying underneath your. What you're saying is that you were comparing yourself to who all the other contestants would be and their credentials.

Nicole Renard [00:02:15]:
I mean, in an environment like that, it's hard not to. And I know. I mean, you go into every day thinking, don't compare yourself to other people, but When I was in a green room with. At the. We started. I think we started with 24, and all of them had way more experience than me, and we had to go through the audition process. And I just. It took everything in me to remember that I was there for a reason and that God had called me to something unique.

Nicole Renard [00:02:38]:
And again, it felt so random that I was there, that I'm like, there's got to be a reason. And so I had to hold on to that and truly lean on the Lord for everything during that experience, because I could not do that on my own.

Heather Creekmore [00:02:52]:
Yeah, I love that. I love that. And I get it when you say it was scary. I mean, my show was not scary in the same way, but I don't know if it was. I would assume it was this way on Next Level Chef. I mean, the producers are kind of adding a level of intensity, and so we were kind of getting, like, yelled at to the point where I had frozen to the. Like, my hands were covered in, like, fondant and cake ball materials and all the things, and I didn't. I could not see the sink.

Heather Creekmore [00:03:25]:
Like, I was like, there's no sink. I was just blind to it, trying to find towels to wipe off my hands. But, like, it is. It's so intense.

Nicole Renard [00:03:34]:
Yeah, it is. And I had to keep reminding myself, at the end of the day, this is a TV show. They're producing a television show, so there has to be that level of drama and excitement and press, which is why the stakes are so high on Next Level Chef. But it. It truly was one of the most intense things I've ever done. And I tell people all the time that it's 50% a mind game. Sure, you have to know how to cook, and you have to be a good chef, but at the end of the day, you also have to play the mental game of not psyching yourself out or. Or.

Nicole Renard [00:04:03]:
I think a lot of the people that went home early on in. In my season, they checked out in their brain first, and I started to notice that. I'm like, oh, it's the people that are losing confidence or who are doubting themselves or comparing themselves and it getting to them to the point that they end up getting eliminated. So it's such a crazy thing.

Heather Creekmore [00:04:21]:
Interesting. Okay, but you are not a stranger to intense competition because you did pageants, right? I mean, how. How are the situations similar in a lot of ways?

Nicole Renard [00:04:32]:
I mean, a lot of what I did growing up, my extracurriculars, were competitive by nature. I grew up as a dancer and so my company competed across the country and across the state. And I was. I just grew up used to either being on stage or being in front of judges and having performance being critiqued or judged. And the award or level of placement was determined by that. And so from a young age, especially before I knew who I was, before I was really solid in my identity and who, you know, who I was in Jesus, it was hard for me to just know what to do with that. When, you know, you're trying your best, you've trained, you've put in hours, and you want to do well, and then maybe you get a placement that was lower than what you wanted or you didn't place at all. Like, those things were really hard for me.

Nicole Renard [00:05:19]:
And then it's. It's only natural to look at the girl next to you or the world, the girl who did place higher, and say, well, I guess I'm not as good as that. Or, I guess I must not have been as pretty or smart or eloquent or, you know, well spoken. And those things don't also always necessarily mean that, but it's hard to not equate it to that in the moment. Yeah. So it took me years of going through not only the competitions, but just the mental work and the hard work of understanding that at the end of the day, and I didn't figure this out until, like, the end of my journey, competing and when I stopped. But at the end of the day, if all of that was stripped away, whether or not I win, whether or not I don't place it all, nothing I do or don't do or achieve or don't achieve.

Nicole Renard [00:06:06]:
Changes the fact that I'm a human created with purpose, and that I have value that is given to me through Christ, and that cannot take that away. Nothing can. And when I realized that, it unlocked something within me that then moving forward, when I would compete, like, let's say, what's on next, Little Chef? Yes, I was scared, but I still. I had that confidence of like, okay, if I. If I do get eliminated today, I'm going to be okay, because God still loves me and I still have value. And I'm scared out of my mind, but it's gonna be okay.

Heather Creekmore [00:06:34]:
Yeah, I love that. That's a good word. So is that what you say to yourself in your head, like, you're at next level, Chef, you wanna freak out? What are you saying to yourself? God still loves me.

Nicole Renard [00:06:43]:
I have value.

Heather Creekmore [00:06:43]:
Like, do you have any things?

Nicole Renard [00:06:46]:
So many things. I feel like I was in prayer the whole time I was there, I was just in constant conversation with the Lord because every moment I felt like I didn't know what to do. And maybe I'm not giving myself enough credit. Like, I really, it built my confidence in so many ways and I really did my best. I feel like I was just stretched beyond what I thought I was capable of. And my capacity grew in that season, but I still, I think internally was freaking out, like, just internally screaming the whole time. And so I would say, like, holy spirit, highlight what I'm supposed to grab on the platform and tell me what to do because I am so out of my element right now. And my hands were doing things that I'd never done before.

Nicole Renard [00:07:19]:
I don't know how I was pulling off some of these dishes, but I just kept repeating like, God, I trust you. God, I trust you. Jesus, help me. Like every. Just little breath prayers throughout the day, I truly think is what sustained me.

Heather Creekmore [00:07:31]:
That's. That's amazing. Now I need to go watch. I don't know that I watched your season. I've only seen a couple episodes.

Nicole Renard [00:07:37]:
It's season three. It's really great.

Heather Creekmore [00:07:38]:
How far did you make it?

Nicole Renard [00:07:40]:
I made the top seven.

Heather Creekmore [00:07:42]:
Which awesome is way further than I thought.

Nicole Renard [00:07:44]:
My goal was to make it through the first episode, and then once I made it through one, my goal was top 10. So the fact that I made it three episodes past top 10 feels like a huge accomplishment to me.

Heather Creekmore [00:07:53]:
Oh, that's fantastic. I can't wait to check it out. Yeah. Well, man, I mean, you're not that old, Nicole, but you got a solid grip on this identity thing, which is super impressive.

Nicole Renard [00:08:08]:
Thank you.

Heather Creekmore [00:08:09]:
Your new mom.

Heather Creekmore [00:08:11]:
Did that add any new layers to the tendency to compare yourself to others or the identity piece?

Nicole Renard [00:08:20]:
Yeah, I definitely still struggle with that in different ways. Now that I'm a first time mom, I think. I don't know if anybody can relate to this, but one thing I've always struggled with, with sometimes it's not so much comparing myself to other people, but comparing myself to my past self. It's like I'm comparing maybe on a low day or, or a medium day, I'm comparing myself to my peak. And because I have done so many.

Nicole Renard [00:08:43]:
I mean, and this is all relative, so I don't even want to say like, so many big things or so many cool things because I've achieved so many, like, outwardly big things in my young adult life. It's really hard for me in my 30s now to look back and not believe the lie that I have peaked and that that's the best or coolest that God's going to do in my life and that it's kind of over. Like I'm just washed up goods. I don't believe that. But I would be lying if I said that voice doesn't come in my head a lot. And I have to be careful to not compare myself to seasons that I'm not in because I can just as easily look back and see God's faithfulness in hand in my life over the last 15 years. And all of those things are stepping stones. Like at the time when I was 22 and had just stepped off the Miss America stage, I thought that was it.

Nicole Renard [00:09:26]:
I was like, I've peaked. I'm 22. That's the coolest thing I'll ever do. That's the biggest thing. That's the biggest way God's ever going to use me. Never even had it in my brain that I would be on a Gordon like Gordon Ramsay cooking show. And it's not even to say that that's cooler, bigger, better or that's even the point. It's literally not the point.

Nicole Renard [00:09:41]:
But I think sometimes I'm quick to give up on myself and say, well, I don't know what else it could be. And I compare myself to that. So I definitely struggle in that area. But certainly social media and being in social media for my career doesn't help how easy it can also be to compare myself to other moms, whether they're first time moms or moms who have more kids than me. I have to be really careful about that and keep my heart and mind in check.

Heather Creekmore [00:10:07]:
Yeah, I mean, so you're, you're on there all the time. You've got a very popular account, right? Tell us a little bit about like what you're posting about. But then I want to hear, so what do you do? Like, what's your, like regular strategy? Are you taking a day off? Are you, what are you saying to yourself?

Nicole Renard [00:10:22]:
Yeah, I definitely have more boundaries than I used to to protect my peace and to protect my energy because it can get out of hand really quickly. And I try to take at least one day off, if not more. I prioritize rest a lot differently now than I used to because my capacity is a lot smaller with so many extra responsibilities now as a wife and a mother, it looks so different than it did when I was single. And that change in my life happened very quickly. And so I say this all the time, but I feel like I'm Recovering from the whiplash of how suddenly my life pivoted. And it's all good things. I just was so used to my pace and my stride as a single, you know, self employed girl on Instagram and social media, doing all that to like, now I'm married, now I'm a mom and I have to slow down. That was hard for me.

Nicole Renard [00:11:14]:
But.

Nicole Renard [00:11:15]:
I started in the travel food space. And I've always. Faith has always been kind of the foundation and pillar of what's behind my content. But now I post a variety of lifestyle things. I still do recipes on my page. I do a lot of motherhood stuff, I do a lot of family stuff. And so I try to be led by the Holy Spirit and truly just ask God, like, what do you want me to do today? What do you want me to create? Because at the end of the day, I am here because of you and I want to steward this well and.

Nicole Renard [00:11:45]:
I need that divine wisdom. Or else to me, I don't want to just keep adding to the noise, you know, I want it to have meaning and I want it to have significance.

Heather Creekmore [00:11:53]:
Yeah, yeah, that's. I mean, that's so important. And I hear what you're saying too. You know, I remember my transition to motherhood. It was like, oh, the most important thing I'm going to do today is change 8 diapers or fill a sippy cup. Like, really, like, this is where it ends. And I can say now, as a mom of much older kids, it's like, oh, no, that's not where it ends at all. Right? That's just the beginning.

Heather Creekmore [00:12:20]:
But it is such an important season and I think it's just vital to have that kind of perspective. Like, wow, like, okay, this might not feel as exciting, but I'm really investing something here and it's more important than any of those other things I've ever done.

Nicole Renard [00:12:36]:
Arguably, one of my mentors just said something that really encouraged me in a very specific context. But I think it can be applied to a lot of situations in life is like, to always look at it from an eternal perspective. And when you think about what this looks like for eternity, the eternal deposits that you're making when you, you know, you choose to be selfless and, you know, serve your husband first or serve your kids first or serve your friends first, like those things are going to matter in the end. And that helps me in moments where it can be easy to give into my flesh or be like, well, I just want it this way, or this feels good in the moment that I Think is helping me have a better perspective about those things, too.

Heather Creekmore [00:13:14]:
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good word. A good word. Okay. Nicole, I didn't ask you if we could go here. So, I don't know.

Heather Creekmore [00:13:24]:
The Miss America pageant or the whole pageant world. Did you watch the documentary that came out. Come out last year, the Miss America documentary?

Nicole Renard [00:13:34]:
Oh, I don't think I did.

Heather Creekmore [00:13:36]:
I mean, so they were, you know, as always. Right. To make it interesting, it had to expose things or whatever behind the organization. I'm not really interested in that. But, you know, the pageant world is, to some degree, I know it's tried to change over the years to some degree about how you look. And the pressure on women, girls, even in the pageant world around that.

Heather Creekmore [00:14:03]:
Is so intense. Like, what did you see around you? And, I mean, did you feel like you were able to shine light there?

Nicole Renard [00:14:13]:
Yeah, absolutely. And that's one thing I love about the Miss America organization. Obviously, I only have my experience, and I know every girl has a different experience who goes through the program. And I just want to note that it's so different based on where you are in the region. Like, the pageant world in Washington, where I grew up, is very, very different than the pageant world in Texas.

Heather Creekmore [00:14:31]:
Yeah.

Nicole Renard [00:14:31]:
And it's very different than the pageant world in Tennessee or Alabama. So I honestly, I think if I grew up in the South, I would have not competed. Okay. I'm too scared.

Heather Creekmore [00:14:39]:
That's fair.

Nicole Renard [00:14:40]:
They come out of the womb doing pageants in full makeup. Yes. And that just wasn't my experience, and I'm grateful for that. I was always involved with organizations before I did Miss America that focused on building confidence in young girls and developing life skills that were going to help you get a job one day, learning how to interview, learning how to introduce yourself and speak in public, and, you know, how to have table etiquette, those kinds of things, which I think are very helpful. And some, you know, people will grow up in a family where you don't get taught those things. I think that is so vital. And so that's why my parents allowed my sister and I to compete. And then the Miss America organization was kind of an extension of that, with the main goal being to give young women scholarships to go to college.

Nicole Renard [00:15:19]:
And so one of my main reasons for competing is because I wanted to go to Chapman University. And it's expensive, but the scholarship money I could receive through competing and not even winning, but just, you know, placing, helped pay for my college. I received about $60,000 through my 10 years of competing. That allowed me to graduate college debt free. So for that, I am forever grateful. And I think although you're going to hear the horror stories, and yes, there are these stereotypes when it comes to pageants. I would. I tried to keep my blinders on and remember why it was there and focus on those life skills that I was building.

Nicole Renard [00:15:54]:
So the times that I didn't walk away with the crown, I would always ask myself, okay, but what else did I win? I won more public speaking skills. I made so many new friends. I got a little bit of scholarship money, and I nailed my interview or whatever it was, if that makes sense. I always tried to think about those things because now that I'm out of it and I'm an adult and I look back at the opportunities I've had because of, you know, connections I made or relationships I have in that world and the jobs it brought me or whatever it is, it was. Again, it's all stepping stones. They were all things that were laying a foundation to help me get to where I am now and almost serve as a launching pad. So I don't know if I answered your question. I feel like I kind of went down a rabbit trail right there.

Nicole Renard [00:16:32]:
But for me, it was a very positive experience and that outweighed the negative.

Heather Creekmore [00:16:36]:
Yeah, I love that. And I can just hear in every answer you give just a tremendous amount of gratitude. Like, you really have a heart of gratitude. Nicole, do you know where that came from? I mean, other than the Lord.

Nicole Renard [00:16:49]:
Yeah, I think it's just been years of man. I feel like I have so many random life experiences. High ones, low ones, everything in between. And I always come back to this concept and idea and truth, really, that I don't deserve any of it. All of it's a blessing. I, as a human who was born into sin, like, I don't deserve what I'm getting in eternity. I don't deserve that. And so there's reason to be grateful for literally everything.

Nicole Renard [00:17:18]:
And we all know that gratitude cannot exist at the same time as complaining. And when I struggle with complaining, I have to go back to, okay, well, what am I grateful for? And that might seem silly, but it helps and it works. And I just try every day to not fall into that trap of grumbling and complaining, to just be joyful and be gracious and be thankful.

Heather Creekmore [00:17:43]:
I love it. That's amazing.

Nicole Renard [00:17:44]:
You.

Heather Creekmore [00:17:45]:
You are wise beyond your years.

Heather Creekmore [00:17:48]:
I mean, that's. I think, if you can master that. Right? Life, yeah. Life just hasn't.

Nicole Renard [00:17:53]:
It's not easy. I'm not perfect at it. I don't want to, you know, like, oh, I'm just grateful all the time. I'm not. I definitely catch myself daily being, like, there I was complaining.

Heather Creekmore [00:18:03]:
It's the catching yourself that's important, though.

Nicole Renard [00:18:05]:
Yeah, absolutely.

Heather Creekmore [00:18:07]:
Oh, that's awesome. I love it. I love it. Well, so we share. Was kind enough to sponsor these episodes, and, you know, their goal is really to promote health, mind, body, and soul. Like, what would you say your, like, best health tip is? Mind, body, and soul?

Nicole Renard [00:18:30]:
Oh, that's a great question.

Nicole Renard [00:18:34]:
For me, I have seen a lot of success in my health. Holistically, when I have consistency in my life. And that doesn't mean being a slave to routine or. Or, you know, being so rigid that there's no flexibility or joy. But I will say, when I established a morning routine that worked for me or. Or. Or night routine, like, just some type of structure to my life, helped me feel more motivated, helped me feel better about myself, helped me be more productive. And again, once you establish the structure, it can bend, it can evolve, it can morph, it can even change in.

Nicole Renard [00:19:09]:
In seasons. Like, my routine now looks very different than it did a year ago, but having seen some kind of structure, that helped me because I knew what to expect, and my body just kind of got in the rhythm of almost, like, muscle memory of, like, okay, what are we doing today? And it changed the game for me. So I think that can be applied to a lot of different things in your life, whether that comes to, like, your diet or your exercise habits or even just, like, having a good sleep routine, getting enough sleep, drinking enough water, whatever it is. Having structure helped me a lot. Yeah.

Heather Creekmore [00:19:39]:
Yeah, that's really good. Really good. How about spiritually?

Nicole Renard [00:19:43]:
What.

Heather Creekmore [00:19:43]:
What helps you thrive?

Nicole Renard [00:19:48]:
I. I think a little more kind of what the same. I was just talking about being consistent, having time every day that I plan to spend with the Lord. And for me, that works best when it is, like, a specific time of day. Otherwise, it doesn't happen. I've tried, like, oh, I didn't, you know, do it at this time of day, but I'll do it later, and then it normally doesn't happen. I'm not saying that, like, I hit that every day, but for me to have it planned helps me to succeed. And so I just got in a habit of reading my Bible every day, trying to be in consistent prayer throughout the day, whether it's folding laundry or unloading the dishwasher or running to target, like, talking to God and bringing him into those Moments and doing life with him.

Nicole Renard [00:20:26]:
That's that concept of abiding and staying connected to the source made it less intimidating because I'm a first time moment. My daughter just turned one. I don't have time to sit, you know, in my comfy chair drinking coffee, reading the Word for an hour and journaling. I wish I did. I missed those days. If you're single or if you are in a season of life where that is possible for you, soak that up because it's amazing. But my reality is not that right now. And so I do it when I can and I do it when she's around because I want her to see that.

Nicole Renard [00:20:56]:
I want my daughter to grow up remembering. Like, oh yeah, my mom had her bible open on the kitchen counter. Like we were reading as we were making breakfast. We were, were praying as we were walking to the park. Like, I want that to be part just ingrained in who she is, that she can talk to God wherever.

Heather Creekmore [00:21:10]:
I love that. I love that. Well, Christmas is like just right around the corner. What is Nicole the Nomad gonna be treating us to during the Christmas season? Do you know?

Nicole Renard [00:21:23]:
Hopefully some yummy holiday treats. Like baking season. For me, I love baking in general, but during the holidays it just feels extra magical. So hopefully some yummy holiday recipes. Actually, this weekend I have five new holiday recipes. Desserts that you can make in under 10 minutes. And so people that are non bakers or don't love the oven, these don't need to go in the oven and they're going to be fun and easy.

Nicole Renard [00:21:47]:
But yeah, this, this time of year too, I try to, to scale back and slow down because my year is just already so busy and I want to rest well and end well so that I can start well in the new year.

Heather Creekmore [00:22:00]:
That's a good word. That's a good word. Nicole, tell everyone where they can follow you. And I don't know if you have anything specific you want to mention, Feel free.

Nicole Renard [00:22:12]:
Yeah, well, I'm Nicole the Nomad on pretty much every platform, so whatever. You're on Instagram, tick tock, YouTube. I'm also on Snapchat, Pinterest, Facebook. If you type in Nicole the Nomad or just Google Nicole the Nomad, my website will pop up where you can find all my recipes and travel guides, but hopefully, fingers crossed, a cookbook in the future. I post daily and weekly on all the platforms and so I'd love to connect.

Heather Creekmore [00:22:34]:
Awesome. Well, Nicole, thanks so much for being on the show today.

Nicole Renard [00:22:37]:
Oh, thank you for having me.

Heather Creekmore [00:22:38]:
This was lovely and thank you for watching or listening. I hope something today has helped you stop comparing and start living. Bye.

Nicole Renard [00:22:44]:
Bye.