I'm Sorry I Got it Wrong: Learning not to Lean on My Own Understanding [Podcast Transcript]

Title: I'm Sorry I Got it Wrong: Learning not to Lean on My Own Understanding

Podcast Date: September 9, 2025

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Welcome to a heartfelt and transformative episode of Compared to Who?! Today, Heather Creekmore gets real, sharing a sincere apology and a powerful re-focus for the community. If you’ve been on a journey of body image struggles or striving for personal freedom, this episode will meet you right where you are.

Episode Summary:
Heather shares how she’s been convicted about how she’s focused on the roots of body image issues over the past few seasons, particularly focusing too much on intellectual understanding and analysis.  Using the wisdom of Proverbs 3:5-6 — “Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding…” — Heather shares how she’s issuing a fresh call to the freedom that doesn’t come from unraveling the origins of our issues, but from surrendering to Christ, being discipled, and letting Jesus heal and transform every part of us.

Key Insights from This Episode:

• The Power of Surrender: Understanding why we struggle with body image isn’t the path to freedom; surrendering to Christ is.

• Shift from Self-Help to Discipleship: Heather unpacks the biblical idea of discipleship — growing to be more like Jesus — as the most effective way to address body image battles and find lasting satisfaction.

• Freedom Beyond Understanding: Instead of searching for intellectual solutions or falling into endless self-analysis, this episode encourages letting God into the healing process and allowing your heart (not just your head) to be transformed.

• Counter to Cultural Messages: Heather warns against both secular and “Christian” body positivity messages that focus on self-pride and fixing your exterior, reminding us that Scripture leads us to humility and dependence on Christ.

• Living with Satisfaction: Drawing from Matthew 5:6 and Philippians 3-4, she explores the true path to satisfaction in life and body image, which is found only in hungering and thirsting for righteousness through a relationship with Jesus.

Resources & Links Mentioned:

• Heather Creekmore’s website: heathercreekmore.com — Sign up for 10 Days of Encouragement!

• 40 Day Body Image Workbook & Journey: improvebodyimage.com — Next group starts October 7th!

• In His Image Women & Teen Girls Conference in Dallas, November 15th 

Join the Community:
Subscribe to Heather’s email encouragement or join a coaching group for deeper connection. Connect here: https://www.improvebodyimage.com 

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If you’re seeking more than behavior change and longing for deep soul-level transformation, this episode will resonate — share it with a friend or leave a review to help others find gospel-centered hope for body image and self-worth.

For more support and practical guidance on becoming free from body shame, diet culture, and comparison traps, start your journey at improvebodyimage.com.

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Transcript

Heather Creekmore [00:00:02]:
Life Audio hey friend, Heather Creekmore here. I'm so glad you're listening to the Compare to podcast today. Today's episode is going to be a bit of a doozy and here's why I'm saying sorry. I have been really convicted of something over the last few months and I felt like the best place for me to start was to just apologize to you, the audience, for something that I may have gotten wrong. And I'll give you a little hint as to what it is. It comes from a collection of verses, Proverbs 3, 5, and 6, that if you grew up in church, you may have memorized, which is trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways, acknowledge him and he will make your path straight. And I think I've been leaning on my own understanding and perhaps even leading some of you to try to understand your body image issues better, understand these issues better so that you can get free.

Heather Creekmore [00:01:05]:
And the truth is, freedom doesn't come through our own understanding. It only comes through our relationship with Jesus. And so today that's what I want to unpack for you. And I want to kind of share with you what my vision is for this fall. Because I want us to all deepen that trust in the Lord. I want us to be able to have the kind of relationship with him where we don't have to fear things like what other people think of us. And our confidence comes not from our identity as a woman who looks a certain way or acts a certain way, but our confidence comes from Christ alone. So that's where we're going today.

Heather Creekmore [00:01:47]:
I'm so glad you're here for it. If you're brand new. Welcome. So glad to have you. You're coming in at an interesting time and so you're really for the start of something fresh and new. And I'm so excited for that. If you want to learn more about me, you can go to heathercreekmore.com I've got this great present for you. If you go there, it's 10 days of encouragement.

Heather Creekmore [00:02:05]:
I think you'll love it. So go to heathercreekmore.com and sign up for the 10 days of encouragement. If you're here because you got body image stuff that you want fixed right away, then you're in the right place too. You can go to improvebodyimage.com join us for our next 40 day journey. It starts October 7th. The reading starts October 1st. So you want to grab my 40 day body image workbook? Sign up at improvebodyimage.com for the 40 day journey and join us for six weeks of Zoom calls where we'll dig deep, we'll look at scripture, we'll read the Bible together. You can ask your questions.

Heather Creekmore [00:02:38]:
You guys, it's a great time. Find out all about it. Improvebodyimage.com and one more thing. Hey, live and in person. You can go to an awesome body image conference if you live near Dallas, Texas, or if you want to travel there. It's called In His Image. It's going to be a fantastic conference for women and teen girls. It's happening November 15th.

Heather Creekmore [00:02:58]:
It's a Saturday. You can find out the links to participate in that or just find out the info in the show notes below. Now, let's get to today's show. Okay friend, well, today's show, like I said, it might be a doozy, but I do want to start with an apology. So Holy Spirit's been talking to me about a couple things over the last few months. One of them is how each influenced I am. And I wrote in my weekly email that to y'. All.

Heather Creekmore [00:03:31]:
Hopefully you're subscribed to that. Hopefully we're email friends because I send weekly encouragement every week. So if we're not email friends yet, fix that. Go to improvebodymitch.com and sign up. Or go to heathercreekmore.com and sign up because I want to be email friends with you. But I sent this heartfelt message about how the Holy Spirit had been talking to me about how influenced I was. Like, I see a dress on Instagram and I think I have to buy it. Or I see a supplement and I think maybe I should try it.

Heather Creekmore [00:03:57]:
And the way I've been influenced, I think also has impacted what I'm going to apologize to you for today. Because the bottom line is this. I've spent way too much time in the last year, maybe two years, trying to explain where body image issues come from, the origin story behind them, like what might have caused them, what made us, like prone to them, how our traumas have impacted them, all of those things. And while those things are certainly true, I'm afraid that perhaps I've missed the point recently. Because the point isn't understanding. The point is freedom. And that freedom doesn't come from figuring it all out intellectually. That freedom only comes through the transformative power of Jesus and His Word.

Heather Creekmore [00:04:56]:
And so recently I was meditating on this verse. Trust in the Lord with all your heart. Lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways, acknowledge him and he will make your path straight. And that's the verse that I need to repent over today. Because honestly, oh friend, it's so much easier to lean on my own understanding. I want to understand it. I want to get it.

Heather Creekmore [00:05:18]:
It's almost like I feel like if I can just make intellectual sense of it, then I can get over it. I've almost bought the lie that if I can just analyze it, connect all the dots, then that's where freedom is. It's in figuring it out. But friend, the freedom isn't in figuring it out. It doesn't work that way. And so that's what I want to unpack for you today. Today. And so I feel like the last couple of years, maybe the last two seasons, I've been caught up in the why? In part because I'm talking to so many of you, I'm coaching so many of you wonderful women and we're having these awesome conversations and you're sharing these stories with me.

Heather Creekmore [00:06:03]:
And the stories start to feel the same. They're so similar. We have so much in common. Even if we literally have nothing in common, we still have so, so much in common. And so, I don't know, maybe I have a science brain. I kind of just want to analyze it. Like the attachment issues, the trauma, the controlling parents, how certain people with certain personalities connect with these issues. Like, you name it.

Heather Creekmore [00:06:31]:
And while there's truth to those patterns, here's the hard reality. Figuring out body image issues isn't the path to freedom. You might know how you got here by looking backwards, but that won't set you free. And so where this really hit me was the last time we did a 40 day journey, we had a group this summer. Amazing women. Love you all. It was so much fun. I love doing these groups because I get to connect with like 20, 30 women at a time.

Heather Creekmore [00:07:02]:
So it's kind of a smallish group where it's small enough where you could ask your questions and interact with. But over and over again, as I heard questions or comments, I found myself. I kept saying the same thing to these women. Like, no, this isn't a head journey, it's a heart journey. You can't just figure it out and think you're going to be free. Like, this is about your heart. You have to surrender it. You have to let Jesus in.

Heather Creekmore [00:07:27]:
You have to actually let Jesus break your heart over this a little bit. And then he's the one who can heal you. And I saw it kind of fly over some people's heads, right? Because Honestly, those of us that have a hurtful. Oh, I hate to say traumatic, even past. Right. Those of us who maybe have lived in hurt for a long time, we're a lot more comfortable thinking through things than we are feeling through things. And so when I say things like, you have to let Jesus heal it. You have to feel it to heal it.

Heather Creekmore [00:07:59]:
Like, those kind of things, like, they sound too extreme, too frou frou. Like, nope, I want to think about it. I don't want to feel it. Feel. Feeling is dangerous. Feeling hurts. Right? But the truth is, it's really neither. Like, you don't need all an intellectual journey.

Heather Creekmore [00:08:12]:
You don't need all a feeling journey. What you need is a transformation journey that comes from being discipled and drawing closer to Jesus. And I understand if you've been around church for a while, like, that might sound really intangible. Like, wait a second. I've been trying that other. I've been doing that. I've been trying. I've been trying.

Heather Creekmore [00:08:34]:
I've been trying. I hear that a lot, too. But today, I want to kind of share with you, like, maybe why that trying wasn't working the way you hoped it would work. And I want to talk about where true healing actually begins. You see, I've been coaching women for almost 10 years now, and a lot of the women I coach have been in counseling before. Some have been in counseling for years, some have been in counseling for decades. And a lot of them will get on our first call and they'll be like, yes, I have these daddy issues and these mama issues and this trauma story, and they can tell me who hurt them and how it shaped them, but they still feel stuck. That's why they're paying me for body image coaching.

Heather Creekmore [00:09:19]:
They still aren't free. And over and over again, after we've worked together for, let's call it six weeks, 12 weeks, you know, sometimes even longer. But not only that much longer. Like, three, four, five months is about all the further I go with women until they're ready to be launched and on their own journey and free with this. But over and over again, at the end, they'll say something like, wow, this helps so much more than all those years of counseling ever did. And y', all, I've kind of had imposter syndrome around my coaching because of how, going back to what I said at the beginning, how influenced I am, I'm like, oh, I don't have a PhD. I'm not a licensed counselor. I'm not a licensed psychotherapist.

Heather Creekmore [00:10:03]:
I'm not trauma informed. I don't have all these credentials. Can I even help people? And the answer is, yeah, we have. We've been having great success helping people here at. Compared to who? Because what we do is not counseling. What we're doing is not trying to analyze and dig through your family of origin issues and figure things out. What we're doing is we are trying to identify maybe some of those places where you got hurt, but we're trying to lead you to a place where they can be healed. We're not sitting in the analysis of the past.

Heather Creekmore [00:10:41]:
We're moving forward saying, okay, here's how Jesus addresses this. Here's what Scripture says about this. Here's how Scripture has an answer for this specific thing that's keeping you stuck. And what we're really doing is discipleship. We're helping you grow in Jesus. Now, do you know what discipleship is? A lot of people don't, so I'm going to explain that right after this quick commercial break. Okay, So a lot of churches don't talk about discipleship anymore. The churches I grew up in, it wasn't really a word I was super familiar with.

Heather Creekmore [00:11:15]:
I mean, I knew Jesus had disciples. Didn't really think discipleship was something I was supposed to do. I know, you know, go make fishers of. Be fishers of men, something like that. Right? I. I kind of knew that. But discipleship, quite simply is helping someone to grow to be more like Jesus. Right? And so it's different than helping someone analyze their issues.

Heather Creekmore [00:11:40]:
Right. In fact, the bottom line is, friend, helping you grow to be more like Jesus is really helping you grow up. We want to help you mature in your walk with Jesus. Right? And so it's not just about sitting around talking about your body image issues, labeling your struggles, but it's about saying, how can you grow closer to Jesus? What's stopping you from growing closer to Jesus so that he can actually do this transformative work, so that he can actually be the one to change you from the inside out. And, you know, that's really why I wrote the book Compared to who? And why I started this podcast because after my first book called Compared to youo, after that came out, I had women telling me, heather, this is so different. Like, I've never heard anything about body image idolatry before. And I didn't have any idea that, like, my body image or what I look like could even be an idol to me. And they had no idea that this idol could be standing in the way of them growing Closer to Jesus.

Heather Creekmore [00:12:45]:
In fact, a lot of what was out there in, I'm going to call it like the Christian bubble was really Bible verses used as self esteem verses, right? Like God made you beautiful or be you tful. Right? And there was a popular author who called herself a Christian author who was going out and speaking on stages and basically telling women they just needed more pride in their body to like just, you know, say screw you to anyone who didn't like the way they looked. And it was a very like body positivity, like self focused, self love, really just body pride message that the church was kind of getting into. And it scared me because I thought, no, no, no, we can't ever have pride as the solution to a problem. Like, that's God's solutions. Never pride. God opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble. And so by identifying that maybe body image had become an idol, I was giving women kind of a good news, bad news situation.

Heather Creekmore [00:13:48]:
Like, right, the bad news is you might have a big sin problem and sin problems stand in the way of your relationship with Jesus. You can grow to be more like Jesus until you take care of your big sin problem. So that's the bad news. But the good news is there's a solution to that sin problem. It's not this baggage, this weight you have to carry around with you the rest of your life and be like, woe is me. I have body image issues. Oh, no. Just because I'm a woman, I have body image issues.

Heather Creekmore [00:14:14]:
That's my Eeyore voice, by the way. No, the good news is Jesus paid it all on the cross to take care of your sin issue. So if your body image issues are sin issues, good news, friend. You don't have to keep them. They were covered by his blood. Right. But figuring all that out is muddy in a culture that's kind of constantly telling you. Even a Christian culture that's kind of constantly telling you, well, just focus more on your body.

Heather Creekmore [00:14:44]:
You can be free if you just fix your body a certain way. You can be free if you just slap this Bible verse on your efforts to fix your body. Oh, friend, that's not the way out. And although I know I didn't go that far, I know I would have never crossed the line to start telling you to focus more on your body, to fix your body. You know, I firmly believe, like Tim Keller says, the freedom is in self forgetfulness. I think I started drifting. I thought maybe you needed more of the professional's advice, that I needed to sound more like the psychologists the experts, the eating disorder world, the trauma informed, and my heart was to reach you better. But instead I think what I ended up doing was watering down the very thing that makes this ministry effective, and that's preaching the word of God and the gospel message.

Heather Creekmore [00:15:44]:
So I'm sorry, I want to bring us back. That's my goal for this fall, is we're going back. We're going back to what the Bible says about these issues. And so today I want to start us in 2 Timothy 3. Paul warns Timothy that in the last days, people are going to love themselves. They're going to love pleasure, they're going to look godly, but they're going to deny God's power. And right after that warning, Paul reminds Timothy, who he's writing to, that all scripture is. And here's how the verse goes.

Heather Creekmore [00:16:15]:
God breathed and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training righteousness so that we may be equipped for every good work. Friend, the Bible has all the answers, period. Now that's not to say that people haven't done awesome work over the years helping explain scripture and helping us understand scripture better. Of course, like I write books, I'm not going to say you should never read another book. No, of course there's a place for that. Right. But I think where it's been confusing is there's a little bit of this, like, oh, dare I call it, like, snobbery where, okay, it's fine to have the Bible answer to that, but you also need this answer from psychology. You need scripture, but you also need a trauma informed certificate.

Heather Creekmore [00:17:03]:
And friend, that's just not biblical. Now I do understand, like there's definite beauty in understanding that some people are going to need to be treated more gently than others. But we should all be walking in gentleness and kindness, in mercy, in grace, as we speak the truth in love to people. We need to care about people's stories. And I'm sorry that there have been people out there that didn't care about other people's stories, that used scripture as a weapon, that didn't walk in gentleness and kindness as they delivered God's word. And I'm not advocating for that at all. I think that's wrong. But where we get into trouble is when we don't believe that the Bible is enough because the Bible is enough.

Heather Creekmore [00:17:57]:
And when we don't believe the Bible is enough, we start to look for the power to come from somewhere else. We start to look for the power to come from our own understanding. We start to look for the Power to come from someone else's understanding. We look for the power to come from someplace that's not the Holy Spirit. But the power only comes from the Holy Spirit. The power only comes from God. It doesn't come from human wisdom. And so that's why this ministry isn't really just about body image.

Heather Creekmore [00:18:30]:
It's about discipleship. Okay, maybe the way you got here was you were looking for body image help, and that's awesome. Or maybe you're just looking to stop comparing yourself to others, and that is something we can certainly help with. But over and again, as we've worked with women, it's been interesting because every time they say, boy, this didn't just touch my body image. It touched every part of my life. It touched my marriage, it touched my relationships. It touched my parenting. It touched the way I feel about my home and hospitality.

Heather Creekmore [00:19:02]:
It touched all these different things. Why is that? Well, it's not because your body image issues are central to everything else. Yes, there's a connection. But. But it's not because once you fix the body image, you fix the marriage, you fix everything else. No, no, no, that's not it. It's because what we are trying to do here is we're trying to help you grow to be more like Jesus. We're trying to help you grow up.

Heather Creekmore [00:19:28]:
We're trying to help you mature spiritually. And once you do that, that's when you start to grow up in all of these areas. Right? It doesn't just affect your body image. As you grow and mature, sp, Every part of your life is impacted. And so the question I want to ask you today, the spiritual growth question that I think we all need to ask ourselves is this. What am I really hungering and thirsting for? So if that sounds really weird and you're like, I don't know, I kind of have a hankering for a cheeseburger right now. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about food.

Heather Creekmore [00:20:08]:
I'm talking about what Jesus said in the Beatitudes in Matthew 5, 6. He says this. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled, friend. Another way to translate that is, they will be satisfied. Do you struggle with satisfaction? I know I did, y'. All. When I was in the throes of my body image issues, my eating disorder, nothing could satisfy me. It was never enough.

Heather Creekmore [00:20:34]:
I just felt like I was on the treadmill that never stopped. And it was like, if I could just get one more thing, one more thing. Like, maybe if my house could be better, maybe if my weight could be better, maybe if my hair could be better, maybe if my children could be better, maybe if my marriage could be better, maybe if my work could be better. It was like this constant quest for better. In fact, that's why my second book was called the Burden of Better. We changed the name recently to the Comparison Free Life because that resonated with people a little bit more. But it really was that burden of better. Everything I wanted to be better, I could never be satisfied.

Heather Creekmore [00:21:06]:
I was chasing all of these things, and even if I got a taste of it, it was never enough. And Jesus clearly says in Matthew 5, 6, we're blessed if we're hungering and thirsting for righteousness. Honestly, I wasn't looking for righteousness. Like, that's a big word. And I kind of was like, I got the God and Jesus answer. I'm going to heaven. Do I really need righteousness? Like, what does that mean? Does that mean I'm just supposed to be a better Christian? Am I supposed to go to church more? Am I supposed to read my Bible more? Yeah, yeah, I know all those things. It just didn't make sense to me.

Heather Creekmore [00:21:39]:
But here's the thing. Righteousness, as Tim Keller says, and he just does a fantastic job defining this word better than anyone else. I think righteousness technically means to be right with. And so righteousness is the way we are right with God, and so hungering and thirsting to be right with God. That means I've got this burning desire inside me. It drives everything I do because I just want to be right with him. But here's the beautiful news. There's nothing I can do to be right with him.

Heather Creekmore [00:22:18]:
The only way I am right with Jesus. Excuse me, right with God is through Jesus, is because of what Jesus did on the cross. It's the gospel story. I could not possibly be good enough ever to make myself righteous or holy to a holy and righteous God. But Jesus put the cloak of righteousness on me through his death and resurrection. And so I don't have to do more things. Like, a lot of you I talked to are trying and trying and striving and striving, trying to be a better Christian. And maybe if I be a better Christian, if I try harder, then I'm going to get to know Jesus better and then this stuff's going to fade away.

Heather Creekmore [00:22:54]:
And you're trying and trying, you're trying and trying, and still it's just. There's a disconnection. It just doesn't feel like enough. You just can't make it work. And I think it's because you're trying to do instead of getting to know, instead of drawing closer to Jesus, instead of really wanting to know who he is. In Philippians 3, the apostle Paul talks about, like, all the reasons he could be a bragger, right? He's got all these things he could boast in, his pedigree, his education, his resume. And he says it's all garbage compared to knowing Christ. That's a pretty famous passage.

Heather Creekmore [00:23:31]:
We've talked about it here on the show before. But he also says this. He says, I want to be found in him not having a righteousness of my own, but that which comes through faith in Christ. And then here's what I think is really interesting. You've probably all heard Philippians 3:12. Not that I've already obtained all this or have already arrived at my goal. But I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken a hold of it.

Heather Creekmore [00:23:58]:
But one thing I do, forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. What's Paul talking about here? He's not talking about trying to work harder. He's not talking about trying to have more quiet times, although those are things that we do because we love God and we want to spend time with Him. But he's talking about living in this righteousness that he has simply because of Jesus. He's talking about knowing Christ, verse 10. I want to know Christ, to know the power of his resurrection, participate in his sufferings, become like him in his death, right? He's talking about just getting to know Jesus. It's not about religion, friends. And there's a lot of us that know it's not about religion, right? We know.

Heather Creekmore [00:24:53]:
It's about relationship. And yet our relationships with Jesus are strained. That's where we try to help you here. Compared to who? Like, that's really my goal. My goal is, is to help you not be in a strained relationship with Jesus so you can grow to be more like Him. And that's where the freedom comes, friend. That's where the rest comes, too. So as we wrap up here today, let me kind of circle back again.

Heather Creekmore [00:25:19]:
I'm sorry. I'm sorry if in any way I encouraged you to lean on your own understanding. I'm sorry if I made it seem like the key to freedom was figuring out your body image issues or finding the origin of them. That's not the answer. Your freedom comes only when you seek the person of Jesus, when you clear away all the idols, and when you let him be enough, you let your satisfaction be found in Him. So let's go back to Proverbs 3, 5, 6. Again. It says, trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

Heather Creekmore [00:25:56]:
In all your ways, acknowledge him and he will make your paths straight. So that word acknowledge is a little cringe in this sentence, right? The translation acknowledged doesn't really capture what the Hebrew meaning was. In Hebrew, it's yada. Maybe you've heard pastors preach on yada. Maybe you watched Seinfeld when they were saying yada, yada, yada, because it kind of became a Yiddish term, right? But acknowledge in yada context. Acknowledge in Hebrew doesn't mean giving God like a polite nod, like thanking him in your Academy Awards speech, like, thanks God and thanks to my director and thanks to my staff. No, it means to know God deeply, to seek him, to relate to him in every part of your life. And so sometimes I've seen this verse twisted like, oh, it hurts me, but I'll see, like Christian fitness or Christian weight loss influencers will slap it on their programs where it's kind of like, hey, if you just acknowledge God, like, say thanks, God, while you chase your own fitness goals, then he'll make your path straight.

Heather Creekmore [00:26:58]:
And it's going to be like a straight turbo path to your ideal body. But that's not what this means at all. It's not about your goals. It's not about nodding to God as you chase your first world goals. It's about his path. And his path really is a path to knowing him and making him known. Period, end of sentence, right? God's will for you is for you to know him and then to make him known. And this is why I'm so passionate about pointing you back to all the answers that are just in the Bible.

Heather Creekmore [00:27:38]:
I want to point you back to Jesus himself, because we really don't need more information. We need transformation. We don't need more head knowledge. We need more heart surrender. So the apostle Paul again in Philippians, we're going to go forward one chapter to Philippians 4, and he talks about another kind of understanding. And this famous verse, Philippians 4, 7, he talks about the peace of God which surpasses all understanding. And Paul says, it will guard our hearts and our minds in Christ Jesus. Isn't that what we long for.

Heather Creekmore [00:28:14]:
But notice this peace. The peace doesn't come from fixing your body. The peace doesn't come from fixing your marriage or your circumstances. It's a piece that defies human logic. It's a piece that only Jesus can give. And right after. That verse is so fascinating because I use this verse a lot. Philippians 4.

Heather Creekmore [00:28:35]:
8. Maybe you know it. We use it as the Philippians4.8 filter of how to think about things. Things, right? How to take our thoughts captive. How to make sure that we keep our thoughts pure. Right? Paul tells us how to think. Philippians 4. 8.

Heather Creekmore [00:28:49]:
Whatever's true, honorable, just, pure, lovely, commendable, excellent, praiseworthy. Think on these things. But here's what's super interesting, friend, right? You can't get to Philippians4.8 until you go through Philippians4.7, right? You have to have that peace of God which surpasses all understanding, standing, guarding your heart and guarding your mind. And then you can have some sort of semblance of control over your thought life, right? Without that peace of God guarding your hearts and your minds, boy, it's really hard to control what you think. You can try to take thoughts captive all day long and it's just not going to work. But again, notice our theme for today. That piece surpasses all understanding.

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