Mornings Matter: How to Create a Morning Routine that Sets You Up for a Great Day Featuring Jennifer Dukes Lee

Title: Mornings Matter: How to Create a Morning Routine that Sets You Up for a Great Day Featuring Jennifer Dukes Lee

Podcast Date: April 7, 2026

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Description

Do you struggle with your mornings? Are you tired of feeling behind before your day even begins? In this inspiring episode of the Compared to Who? podcast, Heather Creekmore welcomes bestselling author Jennifer Dukes Lee to discuss her newest book, "How to Love Your Morning: Faith-Filled Habits to Build Joy and Purpose One Day at a Time." *

Together, they unpack the powerful connections between morning routines, spiritual health, body image, and God's design for a fresh start each day. If you’ve ever felt “not good enough” in comparison to those perfect morning routines you see online, this episode is for you!

Highlights:

• The Pressure of Perfect Mornings: Why the Instagram myth of “waking up at 5am, running a marathon, and cooking gourmet breakfast” doesn’t serve most of us (Jennifer Dukes Lee at 02:00).
  
  
• Spiritual and Practical Rituals: How starting your day with even a few minutes focusing on God changes everything, and why elaborate routines aren’t necessary (Jennifer Dukes Lee at 03:38).
  
  
• Dealing with the Temptation of Screens: Why scrolling first thing is so common, why it’s unhelpful, and practical tips for finding balance (Jennifer Dukes Lee at 04:33).
  
  
• Morning Archetypes Quiz: Discover which of the four morning types you are—Daybreak Doer, Morning Mover, Meditative Mind, or Social Seeker—and how to build a routine that suits you (Jennifer Dukes Lee at 09:28).
  
  
• Sleep Matters: Jennifer Dukes Lee unpacks why sleep is critical to holistic health, the impact of the industrial revolution and artificial light, and how to fight “revenge bedtime procrastination” (Jennifer Dukes Lee at 22:15).
  
  
• Grace for Your Season: Morning rituals for EVERY woman, no matter your season of life, including practical sample guides for college students, working professionals, moms, retirees, widows, and more (Jennifer Dukes Lee at 21:03).
  
  

Resources Mentioned

• Take the Free Morning Archetypes Quiz:
  howtoloveyourmorning.com/resources
  
  
• How to Love Your Morning – Book & Bible Study.*  (Amazon affiliate link - a tiny portion of your purchase goes to support this ministry when you use this link to buy.)
  
  
  
  
• Preorder Bonuses:
  Details on the Morning Person in Progress t-shirt, stickers, and digital morning survival kit for preorders. Preorder offer may end 4/7 so act now!
  
  

Key Quotes

• “God is a morning person. And because we are made in his image, we are morning people too. It's not about the time we wake up, it's about how we wake up.” — Jennifer Dukes Lee
  
  
• “When we compare our reality to what a morning routine is ‘supposed’ to look like, we can feel like we're failing before the day even begins.” — Jennifer Dukes Lee
  
  

Who Should Listen?

• Anyone overwhelmed by unrealistic morning routines
  
  
• Women struggling with comparison, body image, or perfectionism
  
  
• Those wanting a grace-filled, spiritual approach to daily habits
  
  
• Listeners seeking practical tips for better mornings and healthier sleep
  
  

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Transcript

Disclaimer: This transcript is AI-generated and has not been edited for accuracy or clarity.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:01]:

Jennifer Dukes Lee, thanks so much for being on the Compare to podcast today.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:00:05]:

Here we are again. I love getting to talk with you.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:10]:

Yes. It's always fun. We've talked about some interesting topics over the years. Control. I know. That was one of them. I can't remember what the others were.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:00:20]:

Maybe growing slow, maybe. Maybe stuff I'd only tell God. Like the things that we would tell God. I don't know. I can't remember for sure.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:29]:

You know, like, I've known you since you wrote Love Idol back in the day.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:00:34]:

That's right.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:35]:

It's a fantastic book. Now, an aging book, like 12 years old.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:00:40]:

Yes.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:41]:

Crazy how fast time has flown up.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:00:44]:

I know.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:44]:

But today you have this brand new book coming out called how to love your morning. I'll hold it up for the YouTube audience. And I thought it would be super helpful for us just to talk about, like, what does it mean to be intentional about our mornings? Right. We spend a lot of time on the show talking about what does it mean to be healthy? And that's more than just like what you eat and how you exercise. Those are maybe part of it. But, like, there's physical health, there's also spiritual health, there's mental health. And kind of what we do every morning, it really does set the trajectory for our day.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:01:22]:

It does, yes. And I think sometimes you can get into a routine of just waking up and immediately sort of running over the list of things that are weighing your mind down or just jumping headlong into the chaos. You know, maybe kids that are running down the hall or out the door and you yourself are trying to get ready for work or you're. You. You wake up to grief, you wake up to anxiety. There's so many things, and we all know as Christians that it would be super helpful to start with a whole bunch of healthy practices first thing in the morning. But we kind of wonder, do we have time to do it? We get overwhelmed thinking that a morning routine has to look like the one that we've seen on Instagram, wake up at 5am, run a half marathon, iron your bed sheets, have a gourmet breakfast on, exegete, the entire book of Leviticus, and so on before, like 8 o'. Clock.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:02:18]:

And that's just not realistic for most of us. But what is realistic and what is possible are what I really outline in this, this book and why it's important. To answer your question, Heather, why does this matter? What I know to be true is that when we do these things at the beginning of the day, that are healthy. In particular, when we meet with God at the front end of our day, the rest of our day automatically has to level up to meet God. And so that is to say that in the morning, you have a really incredible opportunity to set your daily intentions and expectations around the heart of God. So for the remainder of your day, the best things that happen are made even better purely by you having developed a morning awareness right away that the blessings that come your way later in the day are not by chance, they're from God. And then also that the worst things of the day that will come to all of us, that the worst things are made more bearable because that very morning, you already assured yourself of God's presence, protection provision, and promises. It's really important to be intentional about our mornings.

Heather Creekmore [00:03:39]:

And I feel convicted, maybe with, like, oh, I don't know, I couldn't even guess a percentage of the audience because I feel like what happens most mornings is I grab my phone and I start scrolling and I grab my phone. Honestly, Jennifer, I grab my phone to read the Bible because I read the Bible on the Bible app. Most of the time I'm doing a plan with people and. But first, I mean, my finger just goes to all the wrong places first, right? And before I know it, I'm like, oh, there was. There was 20 minutes. Whoa.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:04:16]:

Yeah.

Heather Creekmore [00:04:17]:

And you have a liturgy in here for. What's it called? Like, the liturgy of the screen something.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:04:21]:

Or Save us from our screens, Save

Heather Creekmore [00:04:24]:

us from our screens. It's so brilliant. But, I mean, I think a lot of us do that now. Why is that not the most helpful thing for us?

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:04:33]:

Well, obviously it puts you into that whole fight or flight mode as soon as you wake up. We know that on our phones are going to be notifications, things that, whether it was news or people that have texted us, maybe the boss saying, can you come in earlier? Some things, it just feels, like, unavoidable. Like, I need to check the phone to make sure that school isn't canceled two hours late due to. Due to snow. I mean, so much of our life is on that phone. You know, like, whatever. You know, we're counting our macros. We're like, our workouts are on our phone.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:05:08]:

Our Bibles are on our phone. It is so hard to live a kind of analog life. So figuring out how to not just throw the phone across the room, although sometimes that might not be the worst. Trying to figure out a balance, you know, there maybe it is that you just have that phone across the room where you, you know, you'd have to literally get up and go get it. Or maybe even in another room, there is this thing called an alarm clock. I don't know if you remember those that you plug in and you said,

Heather Creekmore [00:05:38]:

can you buy them on ebay?

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:05:39]:

Yes. And, you know, you could. You have those. And then, you know, discipline yourself to. Then when you wake up, that even if it's just for the first three to five minutes that you pray, lord, I give you this day before I pick up my phone, I'm going to come before you and read a short devotional. You can get to the Bible on your app later. But maybe, like, finding these analog ways of just being present might work for you. That said, there are ways to use your phone that can be a really great tool to.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:06:12]:

To help you grow in faith. And I've got a lot of those in the book, too. So I feel you, Heather. And it takes. It does take a lot of discipline. And I don't always have that discipline either. I do the same thing. I hit the wrong buttons.

Heather Creekmore [00:06:25]:

But it's such a good reminder, and I mean, especially for women who struggle with comparison and body image issues, if you wake up in the morning and the first thing you do is start strolling Instagram and seeing other women's bodies and other women looking perfect, and then you get out of bed and look in the mirror, like, you're going to have an issue.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:06:45]:

That's right. And that's like, the whole morning. This whole morning routine industry. Like, if you go look up, hashtag morning routine, you get this idea of what it's supposed to look like. And my mornings do not look like that. I mean, I wrote a book on mornings, and you wouldn't believe how hard it is to, like, think through how to market that and not try hard. I couldn't try if I wanted to, to make my morning look like something from a Pinterest mood board. My hair is, like, sticking out in seven different directions.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:07:14]:

I'm shuffling to the coffee maker. My house is like, there's parts of it that are so out of date, nobody wants to see that in their Instagram squares. But when we compare that reality to what a morning routine is, quote, supposed to look like, we can feel like we're failing before the day even begins. Yeah, yeah, no, agreed. Agreed.

Heather Creekmore [00:07:35]:

And I was laughing. I loved your little, like, run through of, you know, the breakfast and exegeting Leviticus and the one I heard, like, that it was a spoof on it, but it was like, I made myself a healthy breakfast and Then I completed my intermittent fast until noon, like all these contrary things, like, you know, because there's so much contradictory information out there for women. Right. And so it just, it highlighted all of those. And yes, I've seen all of those reels and it just makes you feel like, oh, well, forget it.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:08:07]:

Yeah, right.

Heather Creekmore [00:08:07]:

And yet as people who were designed, who bear God's image, designed to commune with him.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:08:18]:

Right.

Heather Creekmore [00:08:19]:

Man waking up and, and doing that, practicing that is so important. You have these archetypes.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:08:28]:

Yes.

Heather Creekmore [00:08:29]:

In the book, I couldn't figure out who I am. I think. I think I'm the daybreak one. But what. Can you just give us a little taste of what we could find about these archetypes? Because people love like a quiz and figuring out what their type is.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:08:44]:

Well, the good news is that you, Heather, can take an assessment at how to love your morning.com forward/resources.

Heather Creekmore [00:08:51]:

That's what I was saying.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:08:52]:

That's what, that's what was missing. So that'll help you. But as I go through these briefly, listener, you may identify with one or more than one. So just a backstory on this. When I was writing the book, I wanted to find like a full proof, one size fits all, tried and true morning routine that would work for everybody. And it became pretty clear pretty quickly that because we all have different seasons of life and even that we all have different interests, we all have different things that motivate us to get up. I'm like, there is not going to be such a thing. That's going to look different for everybody.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:09:28]:

But what I did find is that we tend to fall into four major personality types, what I call archetypes. And none of them is superior to another. There's one that's related, for instance, to Bible reading and meditative work. And it can seem like, oh, well, that must be, you know, that person must be better. God must love them more if they do that right away. It's not true. So I'm just going to walk through these and then maybe we can talk about which one you are, Because I'm really curious. The four are number one, daybreak doer, I guess you said you think you may be that one.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:10:00]:

So this person is really ready to hit the ground running. They feel relaxed when they have a clear sense of purpose. Like, this is what is going to happen today. I'm excited about it. They're actually probably really productive in the first hours of the day. So the way they may want to begin their day is just accomplishing a few morning tasks. Whether it's just like quickly reviewing a to do list, like writing down some intentions. The, the risk for a daybreak doer can be just to skip all the other things, like skip all meditation, skip all Bible reading in this, jump right into doing, which isn't healthy, so you have to kind of pull back.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:10:35]:

But knowing that you are a daybreak doer and that that's what motivates you to wake up can be a really powerful thing. The second one is a morning mover. And this person functions best if she can get moving right away in the morning. So she's got a hiit workout with her friends. She likes to take a two mile run through the neighborhood, maybe a stretch routine in the living room. And it's something that really motivates her, kickstarts, her mood kicked, her kick starts her metabolism. So that's a morning mover. And then there's the meditative mind.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:11:07]:

And this person is drawn to meditative prayer, Bible study, devotional reading, quiet activities with God. And then, you know, we should all have those in obviously. But the meditative mind begins right there, which is cool. And then there's the social seeker. So this archetype craves social interaction right away in the day and it makes her feel connected, purposeful, energetic. This actually, this might sound surprising, but this actually might be a person who picks up the phone pretty early on in the day to text on social media. Let's say it's a widow who is a social seeker and their person is no longer with them and they wake up to an empty echoing house. What a blessing to them to have like a group of five friends that she texts with every morning and says, good morning, let's read our youversion verse of the day.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:12:03]:

And I'd love to hear what you guys think or to go for a morning walk with your morning mover neighbor. And you're a social seeker. And God honors that. Like, what a beautiful way to start your day. God is the embodiment of all of those. He is the ultimate daybreak doer. He is the ultimate mover, the ultimate meditative mind, the ultimate social seeker. So when you start your day with your type of, with an activity that's common to your type, what an incredible way to start your day.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:12:32]:

It's going to motivate you to get up and going and you can pick up the rest of your ritual from there.

Heather Creekmore [00:12:38]:

I love that for a multitude of reasons. But one of them is, I think in the world of fitness and health and body image and all these things that I Deal with all the time. I think some of us carry shame for not being morning movers,

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:12:57]:

but I've

Heather Creekmore [00:12:57]:

learned personally that like, just the way my cortisol goes and all those things that you have studied when you're in midlife, like, it's better for me to exercise between 2 and 4 in the afternoon. But like you said, watching those reels, it's like, oh, if I didn't get my workout in before six, am I a loser? Yeah, it doesn't even count. Right. So I really appreciate it from that standpoint. And then just, you know, the affirmation that we are all created differently. I think I am a daybreak doer. I think that's me. I am the.

Heather Creekmore [00:13:30]:

I get started and then I'm like, oh, oh, I was supposed to read the Bible. Okay, I gotta stop now and do that. Because most mornings I do remember right away, but sometimes, you know, I just. Especially if it's. If I wake up 10 minutes late, it just messes the trajectory of everything up. But yes, learning to pause, but then also learning, like, I think for me personally that time in the afternoon when I exercise is also a better reflective time for me. Like, I'm much more likely to go work out and then come back and then be able to sit and study God's Word. Yeah, bring it down then.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:14:09]:

Absolutely. And so this is really important what you're raising here because I think that what some people are seeing is, Jennifer, how come you're just that you're saying it's okay to just settle for like five or ten minutes of prayer time and quiet in the morning? We need to be digging in the Word. A hundred percent. We need to be digging in the Word. And also that deep study with commentaries and like a lengthy Bible study does not have to have to happen in the morning. I do want strongly encourage God desires to meet you in the first moments of your day. But it does not have to look like this sort of idealized version of quiet time that we've been sold as the ultimate way to connect with God. Again, I am extreme proponent of biblical literacy, but that is different from starting your day out with God, giving him your day, giving him like your worries and moving from there.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:15:04]:

It's awesome to move later in the day. It's awesome to study later in the day and also to have like these brief but intentional moments with him at the start of the day.

Heather Creekmore [00:15:14]:

Yes. I love it. Okay, you're wearing a T shirt that says person in progress. So what is, what does that mean? Like, you, you Gave us a little taste of why you wrote this book. But like, what, what got you set on thinking about mornings?

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:15:31]:

Yeah, so this T shirt is a pre order incentive for people that order a certain number of the books because we have Bible studies and books, so they've been really fun to sell or not sell. They're free. You get them free, including stickers if you buy a BU5 or more. And we just wanted to have like a really fun, playful way of approaching mornings. But the, the, the truth of the matter is we are actually all morning people. That was what I discovered when I started writing this book. I, I wrote this book. I think you asked, like, how did the book come about? Okay, so we were on vacation and college age daughters and I, Scott was doing something, I don't know, but we were talking about all the things we wanted to do that morning.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:16:20]:

Walk on the beach, espresso, the breakfast, the Bible reading together. And I said to the girls, I wish mornings would just go on and on. I wish they would stand still. I just, there's so many things, I just love mornings. And Lydia put her hands straight down on the table and she said, mom, you need to write a book about mornings. And I didn't even know what that meant. Like, I wasn't going into it. Like, oh, like what? So while on vacation, I started my study of every one of the 200 plus mornings of scripture that took me a whole year.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:16:53]:

But I started on that vacation because I'm like, what does God have to say about mornings? And in Genesis, I discovered that the very first thing that God created on this earth before anything else, was a morning when he said, let there be light. And all throughout the Old Testament, God was telling people to get up and do hard things, like go walk around Jericho, do it in the morning, Abraham, get up in the morning and take your son Isaac up a mountain. Really hard things, you know, David, Moses, Abimelech, over and over. I mean, then Jacob, he wakes up one morning with, with a blessing and a limp. You get to the Old Testament and we've got, you know, the hardest moment morning in all of human history, which was crucifixion morning. And a few days later we have resurrection morning. Like key moments in the biblical narrative happening on the backdrop of a morning. Then you move all the way to revelation and we, we are introduced once more to Jesus as the bright morning star.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:18:00]:

So through all of that, I came to understand that God is a morning person. And because we are made in his image, we are mourning people too. Not Just like morning people in progress, like my shirt says. But some people need just to be like, okay, maybe I can say I'm a morning person in progress. But we are morning people. It's not about the time we wake up, it's about how we wake up. So you are a morning person. Whether you wake up at 5am, 9am or even later, you are a morning person.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:18:32]:

If you're a night owl, you are a morning person. If you work the overnight shift.

Heather Creekmore [00:18:37]:

Yeah, I love it. Well, because the, the Blessing of the 24 hour day, I mean, we just, we couldn't handle any more than that.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:18:49]:

Right.

Heather Creekmore [00:18:49]:

We need that, the, the clear cut break of night and then that new every morning, that fresh grace, that fresh mercy, that start over, begin again. Like we need that every morning. And I think, you know, learning how to really embrace that, not just drudge through it, is a beautiful concept.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:19:14]:

It's so woven into scripture. The verse that you are referring to, Lamentations 3, that says that his mercies never fail. They are new every morning. David writes in the Psalms that, you know, weeping may last for the night, but joy comes in the morning. Isaiah says to the Lord, you awaken me morning by morning. It's so cool. Like, God has a soft spot for mornings. And I want to as well.

Heather Creekmore [00:19:44]:

Yeah, I love it. I love it. So I know you've got some really specific help in the back of this book. What, like, what else do we need to know about this book? What else can we expect?

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:19:54]:

Yeah. So through the book, you end up customizing your morning ritual. You come up with a plan that works for you, that might not look like anybody else's to help you start your day off right, to help you love the Lord your God with all of your heart and soul and mind and strength. So that includes spiritual practice, spiritual practices, it includes mind practices, and it also includes strength practices which relate to our embodied selves. It's how we treat our bodies. Jesus had a body, we have a body. And I think the church has done a really good job of helping us figure out how to steward our souls and how to grow in our, in our hearts and our minds and our spirits. But God has something to say, really important about the body.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:20:46]:

So the, the last part of the book is all about that. It's about food, it's about movement, it's about sleep. So the morning ritual helps you go through all of those things, come up with a plan that you can work with as you move through seasons of life. Also in the back of the book, I have morning guides for various seasons of life. There's a college girl guide to mornings, working professionals, office moms, stay at home moms, retirees, empty nesters, widows, all, all kinds of guides that help you in various seasons of life, whether you're single, married, kids, no kids, young or old.

Heather Creekmore [00:21:23]:

Love it.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:21:24]:

And it's based on interviews with hundreds of women in those stages. So I was like, I've never been a widow. Thank the Lord I have don't know that experience. But I couldn't speak into their mornings if I didn't really hadn't done some research in understanding what a morning is like for a widow.

Heather Creekmore [00:21:41]:

Yeah, I love that. That's so helpful. Okay, last thing as we talk about sleep. I heard you say sleep. I'm really fascinated with studying sleep lately. It got me an aura ring. So I get a sleep score every morning. It's fantastic.

Heather Creekmore [00:21:58]:

I, I should be getting a kickback from the company because I tell so many people about it. But sleep, I think is one of the most underrated health habits that we have missed for decades. What did, what did you find when you were researching sleep?

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:22:15]:

One of the things that I found was the real rhythm altering impact on sleep from two major events, the Industrial revolution and artificial light. So the, the Industrial revolution sort of advanced this idea that sleeping too much was a waste of time. And it was seen as a sign of laziness. That's why we see people, I think even now kind of wearing, I only need five hours of sleep. That's maybe rare cases, but that's not really. The science doesn't really bear that out. And then on the other side of things like this gas lighting that came into the streets in the 1800s and then the light bulb, it meant that people could stay out longer, they could be out later for play, for work. No longer was our activity restricted to daytime hours.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:23:08]:

Now you could keep on going well into the night, and that happens now as well. That loss of, or the, the introduction of the light, the artificial light is believed to be the key reason behind the fact that we are three hours less sleep than we used to be back in those days. Three hours. No wonder we're so tired.

Heather Creekmore [00:23:28]:

Yeah.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:23:29]:

And then you compound that with the fact that we participate in what's called revenge bedtime procrastination.

Heather Creekmore [00:23:37]:

Okay, what's that?

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:23:39]:

All right, so this is when you, all of your, you know, day, you have been busy taking care of other people, think, taking care of things at work, taking care of things in the home, and you revenge bedtime procrastinate it happens when you put off sleep, you procrastinate it and instead you scroll on Instagram or you binge watch another show. It's a way to decompress at the end of a long day. It's seen as a way to reward yourself with a little me time because now finally everybody else is taking care of and you can do this something for yourself. And it is having a profound effect on our sleep as, as people and I really think, especially as women who are called to do so many things and we're doing such a huge favor for ourselves if we decide this is how much sleep I need. And making yourself get to bed in time instead of procrastinating and putting it off.

Heather Creekmore [00:24:41]:

Yeah, yeah, no, that's so good. Right on. I mean the, the thing about the Oura ring, it gives you data around your sleep. And I've always gone to bed fairly early. I mean 9:30, we're like, you know, we're in bed. But I thought because I was in bed from 9:30 till let's call it 6:30 that I was, you know, getting that many hours of sleep and now wearing this ring, getting my diagnostics, like some nights I'm in bed even longer than that and only getting seven and a half hours of sleep or eight hours of sleep. So it's fascinating to just like really know what's going on and realize, oh I goodness, I have to go to bed early, otherwise I'm just not getting enough. And it does make such a difference.

Heather Creekmore [00:25:28]:

So yeah, it makes a difference to my morning.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:25:31]:

You're doing so many of the right things though. Heather. One of the things that sleep specialists recommend is setting a consistent bedtime and wake up time. And I hear you saying that you know, 9:30, you know that that's the time when you need to go and you know that you're going to wake up around 6:30. So your day presumably starts a little less chaotic than if you were to just decide, well you know what, I'm going to push it off till 11 o'. Clock. So kudos to you.

Heather Creekmore [00:25:58]:

Well, you know, we, we keep learning, right?

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:26:00]:

Yes, that's for sure.

Heather Creekmore [00:26:02]:

Keep learning. How to navigate aging I think is part of what I'm navigating here too. Well, Jennifer, how to love your morning Faith filled habits to build a joy and purpose One Day at a Time is the book. It's available April 7th you said, and I know it's available all the places. You tell us again about your pre order bonuses and the quiz.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:26:25]:

Yes. So the quiz you can [email protected] resources. If you buy one book or two or three or four, you can get a digital download called the morning survival kit. But if you order five or more, you can get this T shirt morning person in progress and it's so cute

Heather Creekmore [00:26:45]:

if you're just listening and then this

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:26:48]:

these morning person in progress stickers. So I have a Bible study too. A lot of people are getting, they're like, well, we're gonna go ahead and do this Bible study anyway. So if you did like two books and three Bible studies or five Bible studies or whatever, so awesome.

Heather Creekmore [00:27:03]:

Awesome. And they're all available everywhere books are sold.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:27:06]:

That's right.

Heather Creekmore [00:27:07]:

Great. Well, Jennifer, thank you so much for being on the show today.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:27:10]:

Thanks for having me and thank you

Heather Creekmore [00:27:12]:

for watching or listening. I hope something today has helped you stop comparing and start living.

Jennifer Dukes Lee [00:27:16]:

Bye.

Heather Creekmore [00:27:17]:

Bye.